You know people that just seem so close to knowing the Lord. They talk about Jesus but just can't seem to fit him into that #1 spot. God makes sense to them. There are some educated people that deny an ultimate deity, but truly not that many. But some folks just can't go for a man who lived 2000 years ago being central to a true relationship with God. A once in the history of everything event-a man dying on a cross-just can't be the answer to fixing a world that seems to be advancing technologically at the speed of light while at the same time it is falling apart at the seams. How could Jesus be the answer? Am I a fool for even thinking he could be? This is a conversation between two friends, both intelligent and with the gifts of discourse. One knows Jesus as Lord and Savior and the other just can't make the leap. Don't over analyze the conversation. Just let it flow and speak to you as these two speak to each other.